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Farce of the Week: General Insinuates Fellow Israelis Are Anti-Semitic.

topic posted Fri, August 18, 2006 - 11:22 PM by  tuk tuk
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This is a great one... Ha, ha

www.chron.com/disp/story....4121655.html

Excerpt from news item:

...Halutz also faced heat for his wartime decisions. But much of the criticism Wednesday focused on his stock transactions, which were called insensitive and arrogant.

Halutz has acknowledged selling about $28,000 worth of stocks at noon on July 12, three hours after the Hezbollah raid that touched off the war.
...

Halutz expressed no regret over the sale, saying he has finances to manage like any other Israeli. "They've turned me into Shylock," he told the Yediot Ahronot daily, referring to Shakespeare's despised Jewish "Merchant of Venice."
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  • And by the way....

    Attacking one specific person does not make you a racist.

    But if you attack 85% of Blacks, Jews, Arabs or Asians with ugly and hateful stereotypes, then you're obviously a bigot and racist.

    Any questions?
    • I don't see how attacking supporters of Israel's policies is racist. Israel is in a conflict and people take sides, some of which you don't like.

      Condemning zionists because their policies cause the suffering of palestinians has nothing racist. He's not asking to deport zionists, kill them or anything of that kind, he condemns the fact that they cause the palestinians to suffer, I don't see anything racist in that. You can ask him, I'm sure he would have zero problem with zionists if they decided to support Israel's right to exist on a land which no other people claims.

      During WW2, japanese were called imperialist, that's quite a generalization too, but it was true, they were. Was that racist ?
      • Hassan:

        Caling Palestinians who blow up buses criminals is one thing. But calling all Palestinians who voted for Hamas blood-thirsty, vicious, foul-smelilng, sub-human, animals is quite another thing.

        See the difference?

        Would you condemn me for racism if I started refering to 60+% of Palestinians as blood-thirsty, vicious, foul-smelilng, sub-human, animals?

        Does Usman condemn Zionists for specifc beliefs and specific actions?

        Or does he just call 85% of Jews greedy and wretched, vicious, snarling monsters?

        That's bigotry and racism. Plain and simple.
        • >Would you condemn me for racism if I started refering to 60+% of Palestinians as blood-thirsty, vicious, foul-smelilng, sub-human, animals?

          There's a big difference though :

          "Palestinian" refers to a person from a specific area, this doesn't tell anything about their political beliefs, actions ,...

          "Zionist" refers to a person who supports jews moves to get their own homeland(which is nothing wrong), and today more specifically to support Israel and its policies, it doesn't say anything about their origin, religion, ...

          When someone criticizes zionists, he thus doesn't criticize a specific religion or ethnic origin, hence nothing racist.
          There are plenty of zionists in the midwest, none of them being jewish, they're all christian evangelists, and they're target of the criticism too, that doesn't make all christians targets.
          • Hassan:

            I'm going to start calling every single Palestinian who voted for Hamas a blood-thirsty, vicious, foul-smelilng, sub-human, animal.

            Are you okay with that?
            • Calling them names no, though that is not racist, it's just insulting. On the other hand, criticizing their decision to elect Hamas with rational arguments wouldn't be considered racist or insulting.

              So basically, criticizing the decision of zionists to support an apartheid state is perfectly normal, calling them all blood thirsty is not.
              • > On the other hand, criticizing their decision to elect Hamas with rational arguments wouldn't be considered racist or insulting.

                I agree.

                > So basically, criticizing the decision of zionists to support an apartheid state is perfectly normal, calling them all blood thirsty is not.

                I also fully agree. (Though I think that if someone refer to the majority of any ethnicity as blood-thirsty monsters, I think that they're probably not just insulting, but a racist bigot.)

                Usman goes beyond calling Zionists "blood-thirsty". He makes gross generalizations, caling them all blood-thirsty, vicious, greedy and wretched, monsters.

                The next time that Usman starts up with his shit of name calling, will you join me in condemning it?
                • >The next time that Usman starts up with his shit of name calling, will you join me in condemning it?

                  It always go both ways, the day I start seeing you condemning anti-muslim/anti-arab comments on this tribe, I'll probably decide to return the favor.
                  • This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.
                    Hassan:
                    > It always go both ways, the day I start seeing you condemning anti-muslim/anti-arab comments on this tribe, I'll probably decide to return the favor.

                    Fair enough.

                    I'll admit that there are a number of people around tribe (on "my side" of the issue) who's posts I skim or don't bother to read at all anymore. I should take more of an effort to read what they're saying and condemn bigotry coming from either side.
                • did he start that in his thread? no? so what are you doing tralking about it here? address the subject or leave.
                  • This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.

                    Mileage...

                    Mon, August 21, 2006 - 7:17 PM
                    So I guess some of us here would laugh over the desparate use of the anti-Semite label.

                    I just couldn't believe that here is this big-shit zionist sonofabitcha whimpering that his own countrymen are targeting him in a most anti-Semitic way!
                    • Re: Mileage...

                      Tue, August 22, 2006 - 2:22 AM
                      Paul:
                      > so what are you doing tralking about it here?

                      I'm talking about a pattern of hateful attacks against Jews by our dear little Usman here. Let's get this hate out in the open.

                      Usman, do you or do you not think that 85% of Jews are greedy and wretched, vicious monsters?
                    • Unsu...
                       

                      Re: Mileage...

                      Sat, August 26, 2006 - 4:26 PM
                      I guess you mean "desperate"...

                      But why would you find that surprising? There are big-shits that call out racism on their own people all the time... "Uncle Tom's" etc .. Perhaps you might remember Belafonte calling Powell and Rice "Plantation [insert racial epithet here:] ____" ?

                      But, hey! At least when Jews "target" other Jews as "antisemitic", we don't murder or behead them-- like some people do with those with whom they disagree. We a much more civil that way. You should try it.

                      hotair.com/archives/200...ni-abduction/
      • Unsu...
         
        >>You can ask him, I'm sure he would have zero problem with zionists if they decided to support Israel's right to exist on a land which no other people claims.

        What's it to him where "Zionists" live? Why doesn't he concern himself about any number of other countries that are occupying land which other people claim? Consider Sri Lanka, or Kashmire, or Kurdistan, or Chechnya or Canada. There are Mexicans and Indians that have claims on the US, and 'natives' that want to claim Mexico from the Mexicans.

        There is no land in this world that is free of any claims, even if you were to send all the "Israelis" to Antarctica. Israel is home to more than one third of all the world's Jews. None of you have any 'solution' to the problem which doesn't require genocide and ethnic cleansing of all the Jews in the so-called "Arab" world.

        So you see, when you advocate that Jews get out of the middle east without providing any help or alternative that you would support, you are effectively advocating ethnic cleansing (or genocide) of Jews, thus effectively labeling yourselves as racist. You can call it antisemitic if you like, or Jew-hater, nazi, or ugly bigot, whatever shines your goosestepping boots.
    • nice attempted diversion. he only criticized one guy. Its nice that you admit (by screaming racism) that you have no actul counter arguement! way to lose with dignity, oh wait...
      • "nice attempted diversion. he only criticized one guy. Its nice that you admit (by screaming racism) that you have no actul counter arguement! way to lose with dignity, oh wait..."

        - No kidding Paul. That was disgraceful Jonny. I say, let them keep using the "anti-semite" card. It's overuse will eventually diminish it's meaning and hence backfire on them. It happened with African Americans over-using "racism" as an excuse. Now, whenever an African American uses the term "racism", it is immediately shot down as just another example of blacks pulling the "race-card." The same will eventually happen to the term "anti-semite" if it hasn't started already, thanks to people like Jonny, David, and (sometimes) Adam. The truth of the matter is that legitimate racism has increased 10-fold towards Arabs / Muslims or people who even remotely resemble a "sand-nigga" or "towel head."
        • Unsu...
           
          >>Now, whenever an African American uses the term "racism", it is immediately shot down as just another example of blacks pulling the "race-card."

          That's bullshit. It is merely that some of us do not let politically-correct blinders dim our eyesight.
          Speak for yourself. A fair person will listen to ALL arguments before "immediately" dismissing it no matter who it comes from... black, white, Jew, Christian, Hindu AND Muslim...

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